We had an interesting discussion with our 10th grade Humanities II class yesterday.
We started the year off with a discussion about learning. We presented them with Edwin Romond’s “Dream Teaching” poem and asked them to write a version of their own that expressed their vision of Dream Learning. I pulled together some excerpts from their poems here. They represent some of the more common points that actually focused on learning.
Yesterday we revisited this discussion by having students respond to the New York Times Learning page post on the Manhattan Free School. The Student Opinion Post asked:
At the Manhattan Free School, students “do not receive grades, take tests or have to do anything, really, that they do not feel like doing.” Teachers there believe that students learn best when they direct their own education, so though there are classes, students can play video games all day if they like. Would you want to attend a school like this? If not, why not? If so, what do you think you would do with your time? Do you agree that you learn best when you direct your own education? Why or why not?
The kids left comments on the post and then we discussed what they thought. A lot of this relates to our move to more formative assessments which is an adjustment for many of them. Here are the comments they left. The following excerpts provide a glimpse into how the discussion went:
Schools today make you conform to their standards and that will affect the student’s personality and the way they think. If the student is allowed to choose the way they learn instead of being told how to learn it would significantly help the student in life.
This is a great idea and I think that student driven learning should be established in schools nationwide.
If you don’t plan on going far in life, than this is a school for you.
In a free learning school students do not have to worry about grades, they can just learn.
I think it might be a good idea for the younger kids who just started school because they would learn to love to learn new things by themselves, but when your older it is a bad idea.
By having this choice I think that students can find their own passion and then will voluntarily engage themselves.
I’d love to go to a school like this because I wouldn’t have to worry so much about high school credits so I can either take the classes I want to take, or I can’t.
If you give the responsibility to students to learn for themselves or the choice to learn or not they will probably choose not to. I know that if I went to this school I would definitely choose playing Fifa 11 over learning and reading.
Even though this school is based on trust, do you really think teenagers in our generation will actually learn anything if you gave them the option? I feel like I would get no where in life if I went down that route. I would rather have teachers give tests and teach material rather than let us do whatever we want.
The quote “the flip side of freedom is responsibility” is definitely true because now that the kids have the freedom to be able to do what they want they have to be able to accept the responsibility of deciding what they want to do with their lives and to become self-motivated to actually do classes.
It would diminish our country’s next generation, being full of people that wont know how to work because they had everything FREE to them before, since they have never been pushed to strive for what they want.
The idea of students voting on issues the school faces or things in the curriculum is great. It would make school be more in line with the students perspective.
If students work at their own leisurely pace, employers will not be happy with the slow outcome of their work. They will be accustomed to working at their own pace and will not be able to keep up with the bustling lifestyle of real life.
I think that depending on the learning values of a child, structure or non-structure is important.
I think I’d do well because I can learn what I want to learn and what I need to learn, but I won’t have to learn about things I feel are not necessary.
Without tests the students would have no idea if he is even learning well. When they go to college, they will most likely find that students from a normal school will be much farther ahead than them. But how would the person even get into college without a GPA due to the absence of tests?
I need structure and grades and a reason to learn to actually make myself do work.
The concept of a free school where children are encouraged to want to learn is ridiculous for one main reason: Children in high school do not want to learn.
Without the pressure of grades and doing well the students may have an open mind for learning and it will be easier to store all their knowledge.
As a follow up, I just posted this high school valedictorian’s speech to our class diigo group. In it she challenges the system of schooling in some of the same ways this Free School does. It should be interesting to see if anyone responds.

